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Inspired by Bryn and Kyle, I tried running a mile. 3x around a city block. Would be a 16 minute walk, did 9:58, with some enforced walking, though also slowdowns when crossing alleyways. Wearing old hiking boots.

So: I can go faster than Bryn. I can't go continuously like she can. My feet hurt, and I was getting weird pains in my shoulder. The shin splints seemed to clear up, surprisingly, and I didn't get a normal stitch. I can't do the mile and then go do some other cardio as well.

Date: 2007-06-13 18:41 (UTC)From: [identity profile] fanw.livejournal.com
Hey there! Congrats!

On major thought though:
Hiking shoes are not sneakers!!! A pair of even cheap sneakers will be significantly better for your feet than hiking boots. Why? Hiking boots have a rigid sole. This gives you support on rough terrain so you don't feel every rock, and so that you have good balance even if only part of your foot is on something stable. Sneakers have flexible soles made of elastic material. This absorbs the shock of running and returns a lot of your energy back to you in each step. Just plain physics, not marketing. You have several hundred more pounds per sq inch hitting your feet when you are running as compared to walking, so take care of them! Good shoes, even mediocre ones, can prevent injury!

Date: 2007-06-13 23:27 (UTC)From: [identity profile] mlc23.livejournal.com
Yes, even the Marines don't do runs in their boots anymore - too great a chance for injury.

BTW - I forgot to mention that I'm cross-posting my blogspot entries to LJ now, just to make things easier on my LJ friends. Go ahead and friend me.

Date: 2007-06-14 00:00 (UTC)From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
Ah, cool. Welcome to the other hivemind.
Still can't read anything unless I log my mother out of gmail, but should be nice later.

Date: 2007-06-14 00:05 (UTC)From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
Physics: thanks for the analysis. I'd never thought of shoes that way.

Congrats: Thanks? I thought 9:58 with pain was pretty sucky... my normal "jog" speed is 2.2x walking, which should be a 7:20 mile if I could keep it up.

I figured boots would be bad, especially those ones, but all I have here are those and very flexible sandals, which I think wouldn't have enough support and would blister like mad without socks. Though I got a blister anyway, on the inner edge of one foot... pretty fast work. My sister got a blister but after walking around the Art Institute for a few hours.

So you're saying I should go to Payless and grab somethng more appropriate?

Date: 2007-06-14 02:38 (UTC)From: [identity profile] fanw.livejournal.com
The congrats were for going out there and running at all! It does take a mental shift to make onesself do that. As for times, I have been running two or three times a week for a couple of months now and my goal is to sustain a 10min mile for 3-4 miles. Endurance over time. I have never run 7:20 in my life, and even for those who do, it's more of a run than a jog. If you have access to a treadmill somewhere, try a few paces out. It will really give you a sense of how fast different paces are.

I'm not sure Payless has sneakers, but if they do, go for it. The shoes should have support (i.e. not Keds) and I'd recommend walking a few miles in them to break them in before you go for your first run. It should help your feet out!

Date: 2007-06-14 05:19 (UTC)From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
I'm not really clear on the difference between running and jogging. Like I said, my normal next gear up from walking is what feels (briefly) like a casual run, at 2.2x walking. And walking is 3.8 mph, leggy thing that I am.

IU has treadmills, but I'm not at IU. :)

I'm almost certain Payless has things like sneakers, or tennis shoes -- is there even a difference? Avoid Keds, huh. What are Keds, besides a brand -- I mean, are they members of a class?

The blister isn't even white. It looks like a gel pack on my skin.

Speedwise, I'm influenced by Michelle telling me about Marine and other military fitness standards, which have things like 6.5 minute miles for a mile or three, and a lot more situps and pushups than I've ever managed. I think it'd be nice to at least approach that, though I've never put in nearly enough work. So I thought in terms of extending my 2.2x to a mile, not in terms of doing a mile on any terms faster than walking.

Heh. I remember in high school being impressed by two girls having to walk a mile to get to school (one just walked to school, the other had a walk to the train.) My walks were .5 or 1.5 blocks, thanks to where I lived. I just never had reason to walk that far, until Caltech.

-- Damien, le ignorant.

Date: 2007-06-14 05:58 (UTC)From: [identity profile] mlc23.livejournal.com
Yes, a perfect score on the Marine Corps physical fitness test would be 3 miles in 18 minutes, 100 crunches in 2 minutes, and 20 pull-ups (no time limit).

I am not a runner, but I was inspired by the pullup part and managed to get to 7 or 8 before I got pregnant. Once you can do 1-2 pullups the rest come easier, but its amazing how much an extra 5-10 lbs of bodyweight hurts. I'm still trying to work my way back up to one by using one of those pullups assist machines.

extra bodyweight

Date: 2007-06-14 06:10 (UTC)From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
*looks at belly guiltily*

I can do 20+ push-ups, if my arm muscles are warmed up.

6 minute mile for three miles. Bloody Marines!

Re: extra bodyweight

Date: 2007-06-16 00:09 (UTC)From: [identity profile] mlc23.livejournal.com
I think pushups are a lot easier than pull-ups, but it depends on your build. I haven't tried pushups lately.

BTW, Zach was just telling me last night after shoe shopping about how he has done a lot of research and has become an advocate of barefoot running. Unfortunately, you can't do it on concrete because there's not enough give, but it might be something worth trying if you have a grassy area or clear trail nearby. He uses the Nike Freestyle shoes now which supposedly give you the benefits of barefoot running but let you run on concrete without injury.

Re: extra bodyweight

Date: 2007-06-16 19:28 (UTC)From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
Definitely easier, considering that the last time I tried I could do any pull-ups anymore. (Harder to find bars to pull up on, though.) And the pull-up is obviously pulling your entire weight, whereas a push-up looks more leveragey.

Grass would be running back and forth a lot in a tiny area. But I'll think about the shoes. Good timing -- my blister's burst! Or drained, or collapsed -- no broken skin flap.

no way

Date: 2007-06-17 18:43 (UTC)From: (Anonymous)
Running in hicking boots?! That's just crazy! ;) Oh, and speaking of fancy running shoes & such, I heard that a new store just opened up here in B-town that helps you find the shoe to give you a "negative stride". Apparently we all walk (& run) differentlly, and most of them are not completely beneficial. Their goal is to outfit you with shoes that will give you the best possible help. Interesting, no?

~Petite Américaine

Re: no way

Date: 2007-06-17 18:55 (UTC)From: [identity profile] mindstalk.livejournal.com
Interesting.
I suspect I could use some posture therapy. And speech/voice training. Mumbleumbleble.

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