I would like to go on the record as thinking that otakukin -- people who believe their set of past lives include fictional characters -- are not, in fact, crazier than your more mainstream religious or spiritual types. The invocation of parallel universes, time-travelling souls, or Dreaming-type planes needed to have the idea make some sort of sense is not crazier than the Christian Trinity who is outside of time and loves us infinitely but will send many of us to Hell for using a condom, and who decided to wait for 95% of the history of the human race before letting anyone know about this. Or who made the world 6000 years ago so as to look 4.5 billion years old. Then there's the body and blood of Christ of the Catholics, or the Protestant necessity to believe that the miracles of the Gospels are real, but not the miracles of the Catholic saints. Nor crazier than the Hindu who thinks vast mathematical and scientific truths are encoded in the Vedas. And I've never gotten neo-Paganism to make sense to me (actually, I've never quite learned what they do believe) while I figured out one otakukin justification in a flash on my own.
And as ideas ago it's a lot less morally ugly than Orthodox Jews going on about how the Torah condemns buttsex and gives them eternal title to the land of Israel or the Rapture Ready Christians hoping the world ends real soon now.
One of the communities has posts which don't seem any dumber than Christians I've seen recently going on about their faiths, and let's not go into the vicious defensiveness of some otherkin ("Hi! I'm an elf!")
Keep in mind I'm speaking as a hardcore empiricist/materialist, so "not crazier" is a rather low bar for me. But at least these people claim some sort of direct experience, rather than a "Bible is true because it's the word of God because it says so" faith-based closed loop. And hey, most fiction is better edited.
And as ideas ago it's a lot less morally ugly than Orthodox Jews going on about how the Torah condemns buttsex and gives them eternal title to the land of Israel or the Rapture Ready Christians hoping the world ends real soon now.
One of the communities has posts which don't seem any dumber than Christians I've seen recently going on about their faiths, and let's not go into the vicious defensiveness of some otherkin ("Hi! I'm an elf!")
Keep in mind I'm speaking as a hardcore empiricist/materialist, so "not crazier" is a rather low bar for me. But at least these people claim some sort of direct experience, rather than a "Bible is true because it's the word of God because it says so" faith-based closed loop. And hey, most fiction is better edited.
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Date: 2006-11-17 15:20 (UTC)From:Basically they, talking about themselves, sounded like any other spiritual seeker, (in my admittedly limited experience) but talking about being Inuyasha instead of having God in their heart. And my reaction is that the crazy starts the minute you walk past public empiricism into private empiricism (unshareable experience) or worse, pure faith. In those areas all you can judge by is logical consistency and effect on their lives and behavior, and they seem to come out pretty well there.
Plus I don't see why spiritual journeys have to be long and difficult. What's wrong with having instant revelations? I don't fetishize difficulty, only testability, and that's been left way behind.
Having read Sandman and played Changeling is probably a big prep for me; a notion of a Dreaming eases the whole "fictional characters are real" thing.